Comments on: Jaguar dealers concerned over possible Indian Ownership http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss Keeping it real, desi ishtyle Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:24:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Runa http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-2320 Runa Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:16:22 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/#comment-2320 The Time magazine has a very interesting article on challenges of perception faced by Indian business'- starting with the Jaguar deal- - you can read it <a href="http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1694653,00.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> .I , for one, think its time for the West to take a more nuanced view of Indian business. The Time magazine has a very interesting article on challenges of perception faced by Indian business’- starting with the Jaguar deal- – you can read it here .I , for one, think its time for the West to take a more nuanced view of Indian business.

]]> By: Ashoe http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-2319 Ashoe Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:04:26 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/#comment-2319 Both examples of successful Fords above (Mondeo and Euro Focus, from which the SVT derives a few choice parts/concepts) were designed in-house by Ford-of-Europe, who are substantially better respected (and for good reason, it would seem) than Ford-of-USA's design folks. Side note - both had significant Mazda input on suspension underpinnings and chassis design. Ford is finally getting smarter - concentrting on large-vehicle design, elaving smaller vehicles & engines almost entirely to Mazda & Volvo, along with Ford Europe. The Mazda 6 chassis underpins (well?) over 12 Ford/Lincoln/Mercury/Mazda products now :) And the variants of the 2.3l I-4 and the 3.0/3.5/3,7l V-6 Duratecs have substantial Mazda-of-Hiroshima input as well. Good for them, I say :) The Jag X-Type was an AWD Mondeo with a 3.0 old-school Duratec with a few really cool modifications. The S-Type was a souped up Lincoln Continental or LS or something of the sort. Blame Ford for messing up (entry-level) Jaguar - hopefully Mahindra etc will do better. Both examples of successful Fords above (Mondeo and Euro Focus, from which the SVT derives a few choice parts/concepts) were designed in-house by Ford-of-Europe, who are substantially better respected (and for good reason, it would seem) than Ford-of-USA’s design folks.

Side note – both had significant Mazda input on suspension underpinnings and chassis design.

Ford is finally getting smarter – concentrting on large-vehicle design, elaving smaller vehicles & engines almost entirely to Mazda & Volvo, along with Ford Europe.

The Mazda 6 chassis underpins (well?) over 12 Ford/Lincoln/Mercury/Mazda products now :) And the variants of the 2.3l I-4 and the 3.0/3.5/3,7l V-6 Duratecs have substantial Mazda-of-Hiroshima input as well. Good for them, I say :)

The Jag X-Type was an AWD Mondeo with a 3.0 old-school Duratec with a few really cool modifications.

The S-Type was a souped up Lincoln Continental or LS or something of the sort.

Blame Ford for messing up (entry-level) Jaguar – hopefully Mahindra etc will do better.

]]> By: anantha http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-2321 anantha Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:06:48 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/2007/12/10/jaguar-dealers-weary-of-indian-ownership/#comment-2321 I saw this over at "The truth about cars" blog i think earlier today. I have to agree with you that it could be true. I mean, in spite of the fact that Toyota and Honda have a large part of their parts bin made in the US, they still are considered "imports". I read an article on the Sunday edition of the Cleveland Plain Dealer in Cleveland (where I am languishing right next to the Ford engine plant) which had a comparison of this localization number (percentage of parts built/procured in the US). It was an eye-opener. But it is true that perception shapes reality. So if the general public perceives Indian owners of Jaguar as a turn off to the brand, it might end up that way. But to be honest, with Ford, slapping a Jag nametag on a Mondeo is not doing any help either. So I don't see it going any lower than it is now. <blockquote>Brits are not big fans of American car’s and in most cases, rightfully so. The Mondeo was a rare hit. </blockquote> I think you can add the SVT Focus to that list. I have seen at least a couple of episodes of TG where Clarkson has gone ga ga over the SVT Focus. I saw this over at “The truth about cars” blog i think earlier today. I have to agree with you that it could be true. I mean, in spite of the fact that Toyota and Honda have a large part of their parts bin made in the US, they still are considered “imports”. I read an article on the Sunday edition of the Cleveland Plain Dealer in Cleveland (where I am languishing right next to the Ford engine plant) which had a comparison of this localization number (percentage of parts built/procured in the US). It was an eye-opener.

But it is true that perception shapes reality. So if the general public perceives Indian owners of Jaguar as a turn off to the brand, it might end up that way.

But to be honest, with Ford, slapping a Jag nametag on a Mondeo is not doing any help either. So I don’t see it going any lower than it is now.

Brits are not big fans of American car’s and in most cases, rightfully so. The Mondeo was a rare hit.

I think you can add the SVT Focus to that list. I have seen at least a couple of episodes of TG where Clarkson has gone ga ga over the SVT Focus.

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