Yet another act of Pakistan supported “Jehadi” terrorists and co. India should declare a war against Pakistan. Indian govt must wake up from sleep and start issuing IDs to genuine muslims (Indian born) of India and monitor the activities happening inside Madrasa and Masjids of country before situation goes out of control. Already there are lot of illegal “jehadis” from Bangladesh and Pakistan in India. So scary state of affairs !

Yet another act of Pakistan supported “Jehadi” terrorists and co.

I do not think there is any information that suggests this. The last I heard, it looked like organizations settled in Bangladesh were somehow involved, but since the investigation is still on, we will need a little more time before we can point fingers.

Indian govt must wake up from sleep and start issuing IDs to genuine muslims (Indian born) of India

I am not sure on how much world history you know, but that is exactly what the Nazis did in Germany and I do not think it is a good idea. Had you said, everyone in India should be issued an ID card that would have been more acceptable.

Besides, like we all know, getting ID cards in India is like paying for gas, anyone who has the money can get it and we are well aware of how easy it is to create fake documentation.

monitor the activities happening inside Madrasa and Masjids of country before situation goes out of control.

Would you be ok with cops monitoring all the temples in India? All the churches?

You are assuming that every Muslim is involved in creating trouble, this is not the case. There are rouge elements everywhere and it helps to remind yourself of that every once in a while.

Karthik..sorry to say this…to me you sound like exact Indian politicians who are behind minority vote bank! Grow up now.

Karthik..sorry to say this…to me you sound like exact Indian politicians who are behind minority vote bank! Grow up now.

Ummm ok. Thanks for letting me know that I have a future in the Indian political system.

Would you care to explain why you say that? I mean if we are having a discussion, I would like to know your exact points so I can respond.

Karthik..sorry to say this…to me you sound like exact Indian politicians who are behind minority vote bank! Grow up now.

Actually, your words sound exactly like politicians vying for the Hindutva vote bank.

I was just stressing my point here to have strict control on illegal Pakistani/Bangladeshi people who are in India. Personally I’m not against any religion. I can’t expect much from Indian politicians who are still deciding whether to hang Afzal guru with fear of losing Muslim vote bank. Indians have seen enough bomb blasts in last three years…

NRITechie,
We’re all aware of the fact that India loses the most lives to terrorism next to Iraq.
However, we would appreciate it if you discussed the point in hand, the reasons and the possible solutions without resorting to name-calling.

I have already given my most realistic and most efficient and need of the hour solution in
comment #1. Probably open minded people will accept my solution.

I should’ve added sensible and/or feasible solutions. What you’re advocating is beyond asinine.
What the fuck is a “genuine muslim” id? Who decides who is a genuine muslim? Please tell me you’re not counting on our corrupt and lazy govt officials for this purpose.
After getting your genuine muslim id, what is it that prevents someone from becoming a terrorist? If an id is necessary for Muslims to prevent terrorism, why not have ids for Hindus to prevent them from demolishing mosques, burning cybercafes and beating up lovers on Valentines Day?
Your silver bullet for every problem seems to be an id. So fair is fair. Since every religious group, barring maybe the Parsis, have shown some tendency to forment trouble, everyone but Parsis should be issued IDs.
Even if by any stretch of imagination this “genuine muslim” id idea comes to fruition, who do you think will fund such a massive undertaking? 150 million is half the entire population of United States and that is how many Indian-born Muslims reside in India today. The only solution would be to levy more taxes. Now if I’m a middle class tax payer in India, I’m sure as hell opposed to this because so far no one has shown how this will be productive at all.
I’m being open minded and just thinking it through. Please answer at least half of my questions before we proceed on this discussion on “genuine muslim ids”.

I mentioned “Genuine muslim” in the context of muslims born in India. By giving IDs atleast govt will know how many legal muslims are residing in India . Regarding your concern about cost for IDs(Cost being nothing since tax money is already going to drain with lot of scams already!), cost must be filled by the family (parents) itself. That is if new muslim is born in India then cost of ID must be paid by Parent of that kid.
This system will definitely work if govt has strong will power to do that. Note that caveat to this idea being all the systems/govt officials/govt offices functioning fine without any corruption/bias etc.

NRI techie,

Long ago someone had a similar idea to yours ..and that was to identify a particular religious group of people within a country with not just an id but with a yellow star.We all know where that went. Think about it .

Runa ….I just gave my suggestion/opinion. I’m not the PM or President of India to implement that You are also free to give your suggestions to the root problem.

NRITechie: Thank you for your suggestion/opinion. Can you elaborate how your suggestion will solve the “root problem” and also what the “root problem” actually is? Pray tell me. I am not as intelligent as the other people that frequent this blog.

*settles back down with a pack of krackjacks to listen to the master speak*

As I understand root problem is about tackling terrorism in India. My suggestion will/may solve part of the problem as it will help government to keep track/movement/count of legal muslims (I add some more technology into it. All IDs must be GPS enabled) in the country. I repeat I’m not against any religion since I believe only in “Human Religion”. In the comment I mentioned particular religion because in lot of terrorist attacks that happened in India/Abroad we see hands of people belonging to certain religion.
By the way I liked your punch line..

NRITechie,

By giving IDs atleast govt will know how many legal muslims are residing in India

Again, you have not shown me how this is effective given our corrupt bureaucracy.

Cost being nothing since tax money is already going to drain with lot of scams already!

So what you’re suggesting it is ok if we have another scam in the name of IDs to muslims. I strongly disagree on that one.

That is if new muslim is born in India then cost of ID must be paid by Parent of that kid.

So basically you want to tax Muslims? Instead of taxing the good citizens most of whom are innocent bystanders, why not have the people who think this ID plan is a good idea foot the bill? Perhaps you can start by donating all your hard-earned dollars. Maybe that should encourage some folks. Remove your foot from your mouth and put your money there.

Note that caveat to this idea being all the systems/govt officials/govt offices functioning fine without any corruption/bias etc.

I had to laugh out loud at that one. Again, lets keep this grounded in reality and feasiblity.

NRI Techie,
I was not trying to be rude or facetious with my remark.I believe terrible things can and will happen if we start believing that a person is to be treated suspiciously just because of the religion/race/ ethnicity that they are born into.

As far as terrorism in India goes: per my experience and memory ( I lived there most of my adult life) we had Sikh and Hindu terrorists too. Why single out Muslims?

I really wish I had a solution but I do not

Runa / Santosh: No point in arguing with people who have decided already that Islam is the root of all evil or all Muslims are worthy of suspicion. I have gotten tired of these people.
Civil liberties and racial profiling are phrases that these people do not understand. And they don’t know enough of history to comprehend the mechanics behind the Great Wars.

Funny thing is, if they realize that Hindus in certain other countries (where they are the minorities) go through the same racial profiling shit and forced conversions some time, then their tone will go toward, I am sure, the old “eye for an eye” logic. Which is sad, because in my eyes, you can educate people only by informing them of the issues and the pitfalls that are behind each solution. But these people are prone to twist the issues to suit their agenda.

Hence the need for all of to sit down with packets of krackjack and just listen and smile.

Hence the need for all of to sit down with packets of krackjack and just listen and smile.

First time, I read over it, now I am craving Krackjack. Except the Indian store in town, does not stock them (I doubt it).

anantha,

You are correct ( though I would rather sit down with a package of bourbon biscuits )

Gandhi said it best “An eye for an eye will only end up in making the whole worls blind”

Anantha,
Wise words

Good Day biskuts for me pleej.

Why I’ll have agenda? I’m not a politician or contesting in any elections. My facts are based on study. Atleast my ideas will help to curb terrorism to some extent in India or else I can just enjoy crackjack/goodday buscuits and relax like any other folks. Atleast I’m contributing some ideas here guys and you should atleast 1% appreciate it instead of critisizing it 100% !

My facts are based on study

What study? Could you please point us to a link / place where we could get this study?

I’m a very practical guy. Before I speak I think 10 times.

Just follow this links..

1. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908746.html

2. http://www.cbi.gov.in/wanted/wanted.php

You will get all answers to all of your questions. Everyone has answer within himself. That is what Mahatmas and Sanths say .
Just do a basic math from the list and get count of organizations which involves people from particular “religion” and also check the CBI website and get count of people from certain “religion”. It is shocking number !

NRITechie,
I read your links and none of them seem to suggest your brilliant idea of IDs for Muslims and taxing them will bring an end to all terrorism. Please try again. Or even better, do yourself (and others) a favor and don’t.

Atleast I’m contributing some ideas here guys and you should atleast 1% appreciate it instead of critisizing it 100% !

NRITechie: We, here at UD, the bloggers ourselves and the other three regular commentors (which again is the bloggers ourselves) appreciate every single comment. More so from you because it presents us a chance to laugh, among all the rubbish we see in our day to day lives. But, personally, what I cannot comprehend is how you could you stay so focused on making the readers laugh with your non insightful humor and irrelevant arguments. More power to the people who do not have the time for you. Kudos to you.

NRITechie what about the hindu fundamentalists?

There is enough evidence to show that they were involved in the bombay riots. Do they als get ID cards? What about Tamils / LTTE? How do you give them ID cards?

Your suggestion is a joke. If you are serious, you need professional help.

As I mentioned I’m not PM or President of India. I just gave my personal suggestion about the problem. It is upto you to accept or decline my idea. I was expecting much more suggestions/ideas from people but everyone just criticized my idea and never came up with their own idea. May be they need some Management training. I can offer some Management training if Uberdesi gives me 1000 USD per hour.

NRITechie,
All we’re saying is your idea of IDs will not work. I wish there was one silver bullet for terrorism but there isn’t.

NRITechie: Personally, I have trouble understanding if you are being serious. I can’t comprehend how people who I think are educated enough to be a techie outside their country could have such a narrow mindset in spite of being exposed to a culture alien to theirs. I would expect such people, i.e. you, to be more receptive to the whole concept of humanity and not be swayed by jingoism or communalism. Obviously there seem to be a lot of people that fit this profile and you certainly seem one of those.

I accept we have no answers to counter yours, but again, IMHO, this is one of those occasions where a half baked solution absolutely trivializes the whole problem and your solution is similarly half-baked and silence has better value because at least silence could reflect remorse for being part of a society that is a major part of such a problem.

Thing is, his “solution” would create more problems than solve them. Unfortunately we become the bad guys for pointing this out. Reminds me of George W’s “You are with us or against us” statement.