Comments on: HCL CEO says American grads unemployable http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss Keeping it real, desi ishtyle. Discussing all things, Indian and Indian-American. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:50:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Santosh http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5055 Santosh Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:11:21 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5055 Arunk, Who knows what his real point was. The thing is whatever it was he was trying to say, he picked the least articulate way to do it. Kancheong, That ad is so pretentious it's funny. John, It's possible it's a HCL employee trying to link Nayar's lame response. Arunk,
Who knows what his real point was. The thing is whatever it was he was trying to say, he picked the least articulate way to do it.

Kancheong,
That ad is so pretentious it’s funny.

John,
It’s possible it’s a HCL employee trying to link Nayar’s lame response.

]]> By: john http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5045 john Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:55:51 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5045 @Hiranya : Poster possible HCL employee, trying very hard to post Vineet's blog URL all over the place. @Hiranya : Poster possible HCL employee, trying very hard to post Vineet’s blog URL all over the place.

]]> By: kancheong Spider http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5040 kancheong Spider Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:26:08 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5040 His company is an outsourcing sweatshop ...of course people with 10 cents worth knowledge would better know.And their ridiculous AD's just sum it all up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvLHyDsNII His company is an outsourcing sweatshop …of course people with 10 cents worth knowledge would better know.And their ridiculous AD’s just sum it all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvLHyDsNII

]]> By: Arunk http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5039 Arunk Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:43:37 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5039 IMO, it is a loaded statement and as such ambiguous. If he mean unemployable for his company because of the type of business they do (which requires heavy dose of processes), then that is possible albeit still a gross generalization - and certainly undiplomatic. Perhaps that this was the viewpoint of IT services, particularly the kind HCL provides was implied. But if he means beyond that and more generally, then he is smoking stuff. I also loved the way he clubbed "next big thing" with "getting rich" - although I know what he means :) ! True, that many startups come up with innovations with the hope of that pot of gold - but I would say a lot more american grads are getting rich on Wall Street without all this startup nonsense. In other words if the aim is to become rich, innovation in technology etc. has the odds of lottery. Arun IMO, it is a loaded statement and as such ambiguous. If he mean unemployable for his company because of the type of business they do (which requires heavy dose of processes), then that is possible albeit still a gross generalization – and certainly undiplomatic. Perhaps that this was the viewpoint of IT services, particularly the kind HCL provides was implied.

But if he means beyond that and more generally, then he is smoking stuff. I also loved the way he clubbed “next big thing” with “getting rich” – although I know what he means :) ! True, that many startups come up with innovations with the hope of that pot of gold – but I would say a lot more american grads are getting rich on Wall Street without all this startup nonsense. In other words if the aim is to become rich, innovation in technology etc. has the odds of lottery.

Arun

]]> By: Santosh http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5037 Santosh Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:18:59 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5037 Hiranya, Like I said earlier I could not find the original quotes anywhere. Thanks for the link. As for Vineet Nayar, if he had said in his meeting what he wrote on his blog, it probably might not have been as controversial. As a former journalist, do you think he did this for publicity? Hiranya,
Like I said earlier I could not find the original quotes anywhere.
Thanks for the link. As for Vineet Nayar, if he had said in his meeting what he wrote on his blog, it probably might not have been as controversial.
As a former journalist, do you think he did this for publicity?

]]> By: Hiranya http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5035 Hiranya Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:57:43 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5035 This is a lot being made out of nothing... this singular quote is being taken out of context and being blown out of proportion. as a former journalist i am aware of the importance to know the whole picture and at least get the story from all sides. i goggled Vineet and found his blog: http://vineet.hclblogs.com/ this definitely sets the perspective of the education scenario in the right perspective. do read it before judging solely on one quote published This is a lot being made out of nothing… this singular quote is being taken out of context and being blown out of proportion.
as a former journalist i am aware of the importance to know the whole picture and at least get the story from all sides. i goggled Vineet and found his blog: http://vineet.hclblogs.com/ this definitely sets the perspective of the education scenario in the right perspective.
do read it before judging solely on one quote published

]]> By: Santosh http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5031 Santosh Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:46:41 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5031 Mahesh, If you have access to one of these ads please feel free to share. They do make for great entertainment. Rajesh, While the number of foreign students exponentially increases in Masters programs, I don't think that's what Nayar meant. From his comments it appears all American grads are unemployable. That's the beauty of sweeping generalizations. Real Doc, Not sure if he's an idiot but he can certainly use a crash course in PR. Desi with American "Attitude" , I agree. It does appear he's talking about hiring employees who will carry out tasks without questioning their mai-baap bosses. Mahesh,
If you have access to one of these ads please feel free to share. They do make for great entertainment.

Rajesh,
While the number of foreign students exponentially increases in Masters programs, I don’t think that’s what Nayar meant. From his comments it appears all American grads are unemployable. That’s the beauty of sweeping generalizations.

Real Doc,
Not sure if he’s an idiot but he can certainly use a crash course in PR.

Desi with American “Attitude” ,
I agree. It does appear he’s talking about hiring employees who will carry out tasks without questioning their mai-baap bosses.

]]> By: Desi with American "Attitude" http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5028 Desi with American "Attitude" Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:37:19 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5028 American business attitude is "look out for number one". If you employ me, and I learn from you, and I start up a competitor firm that can do what you do better and cheaper, and I steal all your clients, you shouldn't be terribly surprised. That's the way capitalism works, and that's the way entrepreneurs get rich. What he wants are mindless droids that work endless hours for minimal pay without thinking. He's welcome to his vision of his company but he shouldn't be terribly surprised if the smartest people never opt for such a completely bogus "career". American business attitude is “look out for number one”. If you employ me, and I learn from you, and I start up a competitor firm that can do what you do better and cheaper, and I steal all your clients, you shouldn’t be terribly surprised. That’s the way capitalism works, and that’s the way entrepreneurs get rich.

What he wants are mindless droids that work endless hours for minimal pay without thinking. He’s welcome to his vision of his company but he shouldn’t be terribly surprised if the smartest people never opt for such a completely bogus “career”.

]]> By: A real Doc http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5027 A real Doc Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:43:47 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5027 This guy sounds like an idiot! To make comments like that with no basis. Innovation does not always require process-oriented stuff, its usually required to scale the business. If process was embedded in the early stages of innnovation, nothing would get done - it would become turn into Indian govt! Another desi that does not agree with this HCL nut job - go back to your salt mine and keep exploiting our fellow desi's! This guy sounds like an idiot! To make comments like that with no basis. Innovation does not always require process-oriented stuff, its usually required to scale the business. If process was embedded in the early stages of innnovation, nothing would get done – it would become turn into Indian govt!

Another desi that does not agree with this HCL nut job – go back to your salt mine and keep exploiting our fellow desi’s!

]]> By: Rajesh http://uberdesi.com/blog/2009/06/22/hcl-ceo-says-american-grads-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-5026 Rajesh Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:46:57 +0000 http://uberdesi.com/blog/?p=2782#comment-5026 Ok, IMHO his comment has been blown out of proposition . What he meant was how many Americans do you find to have done Masters say in CS when compared to Immigrant students with the same degree? In my own class I have more foreign students than Americans. So, when a company come to campus for hiring the requirements (8/10) are MS and not BS but the number of American students with only a BS degree when being compared against immigrant students with MS is very high. If you are running a business whom will you be hiring? Ofcourse the Masters. not that BS arent smart but the degree will have some value and thats what he meant by saying they are unemployable. I think this is what he meant. what do you guys think? Ok, IMHO his comment has been blown out of proposition . What he meant was how many Americans do you find to have done Masters say in CS when compared to Immigrant students with the same degree? In my own class I have more foreign students than Americans. So, when a company come to campus for hiring the requirements (8/10) are MS and not BS but the number of American students with only a BS degree when being compared against immigrant students with MS is very high. If you are running a business whom will you be hiring? Ofcourse the Masters. not that BS arent smart but the degree will have some value and thats what he meant by saying they are unemployable.

I think this is what he meant. what do you guys think?

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