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Stuck with a piece of paper, my worst night mare right now is getting pulled over and being asked for my drivers license. The piece of paper is my temporary drivers license and I have two of those.
Every person hates the DMV, the long lines, the incoherent procedures and the underpaid over worked staff are just the tip of the iceberg for non-immigrants. We have to carry our entire life’s worth of documents in our back pack every time we visit these offices to do any business.
Curious Cat, pointed us to the new Michigan’s new procedure which requires any applicant to be a citizen or a permanent resident, which leaves the thousands of non-immigrants out in the cold. We all understand the need to have a safe and secure country and to ‘protect’ valuables (whatever it might be) from illegals, but this is by far the worst idea someone ever came up with. I am surprised that people are not raising hell over this.
Yes, carrying all your documents over to the DMV is a pain in the rear, but at least, we have a shot at getting a drivers license, not so in Michigan.
The State website has this to say
This is one more tool in our initiative to bolster Michigan’s border and document security,” Land said. “It also puts Michigan’s procedure in line with those of most other states. The department will maintain its highest standards of customer service by sharing information with the public and working with applicants so that they understand the requirements. We all share the goal of a safer Michigan and America
Boo Michigan, first fire the idiots who came up with this ridiculous idea. Second form policies considering every person who is legally present in the country, along with differing state laws and third think twice before you sign off on ridiculous laws.
And before I say they did not consider legal non-immigrants, which they seem to have, this is what they had up on their website.
Michigan has many outstanding residents who contribute greatly to our economy and society even though they’re here on a temporary basis,” Land said. “Businesses rely on these talented individuals as well. Under the attorney general’s opinion, those who are in the country legally but on temporary student or work visas are ineligible for a Michigan license, though most still can drive using the license of their home country. We need to reconsider that aspect of the law to avoid unintended consequences for individuals or job providers. I encourage citizens to voice their support for our proposal and contact their legislators
My personal opinion is that the attorney general needs to go home and spend time with his grand kids or cats in case he / she did not have grand kids. Secondly, Every sate has a different legal requirement, try telling the officer who pulls you over “according to Michigan law, I can drive with my countries drivers license” and maybe the attorney general will pay for your time behind bars and for your emotional harassment. Without a US issued drivers license, you are toast. Thirdly, you are asking people of your state, a large percentage of whom have no clue about non-immigrants, to vote? Are you out of your mind? These are the same people who voted for the guy because ‘he looks like a guy I could have a beer with’ and look where that has landed you.
And somebody seems to have woken up the Attorney General and the Secretary of State. Now there is new legislation (which still needs to be passed) that calls for drivers license to be issued to non-immigrants, which has always been the case in every other state. Michigan, stop watching football or whatever it is that you do and come back to reality, will you? With an economy sinking as fast as the Titanic, if you pull another one like this, people will start moving out and that can never be good.
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I am NOT surprised at this at all. The increase in xenophobia in this country - specially post 9/11 - is going to result in worse perversions of the law in the name of security. Racial profiling, phone tapping, no drivers’ licenses - when will it end?
Dopes in D.O.P.S.
Idiotic. No? The problem here in Birmingham is, there are around two-three Departments of public safety (DOPS) in nearby counties, who handle driver’s licenses, closer to home (currently restricted only to address changes or such like for ‘foreigners’), but the rule is that all Internationals must go to the one 30-40 miles away from Birmingham(that is not even Birmingham) for their license. The worst part is they serve ONLY 12 INTERNATIONALS a work day (Irrespective of whether you go for written test or road test or renewal) . Picture this about 200 desis in the university in any given academic year, more than 300 chinese, I cannot estimate the number of students from middle-east, African, South American or European countries - but they are definitely there. And scholars, wives of students who later become students themselves, people on WORK VISAS in two or three dozen companies around. Even by modest estimate - if only 4000 people needed to go by DMV (at least twice in an year), there’s no way this rule is enough to serve everyone.
AL, Department of public safety - we serve only about 3000 international people in a year. All other’s come next year.
And yes, I see a lot of friends going more than twice or thrice to give the road test. Passing the test is one story, getting a ticket to be eligible for the test is another, after 2 hrs of waiting outside the dmv in cold before the dmv opens at 8 AM, all for a card with your photo, name and a header which says “Alabama driver’s license FN”. FN for Foreign National.
Can you scan and send me a copy with the personal details struck out? We’ll do a gallery of “best of…” galleries for racist measures implemented in the name of national security.
Sidhu: I did not realize that Alabama had such a rule. Most states (I think) require non-immigrants to show up with their documents, you are given a temporary License for 3-4 weeks, while they check your docs and send you a regular License. The only issue here is that you do not get a 15-20 year license, rather one that is valid until your Visa / I94 is valid.
Then again, you are in a better state (theoretically) than many Michigan residents.
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